. and farragut did this over and over again. he passed fort hudson in 1863. five of his ships didn't get by, one of them was sunk, but the two that did get by -- including the hartford, his own ship, his flagship -- were able to interdict confederate shipments on the mississippi river between port hudson and vicksburg, and that plays an essential role in the campaign against vicksburg and then, of course, famously he damned the to torpedoes on apri- august 5,1864. so that's the quality that i think was most outstanding. >> loyalty, courage -- >> and one more, if i may. i don't tell the story, but i tell it in my lincoln book because there was a point in 863 when farragut brought the hartford back to new york, and lincoln was very concerned about competition particularly from george mccell land, and he was uncertain, too, how these other generals including admirals might react. and on this big rally, farragut was sort of pushed up on the stage. i will do my job on the water, i have no political interest, left the stage. and i think that characteristic was valuable to lincoln as well. >> seems we'
